Russian Lines
 

This Russian family adopted the name "Carman" from their origin name of Kremen and only later became Carmen/Carman. They arrived hear in the United States in the late 1800's.  By one account it was "assigned" to them by the good folks at Ellis Island. As with the German lines, it is an Anglicization of the regional ethnic spelling. What makes this line fairly easy to track, at least in the beginning, is that they were Russian Jews, and although they Anglicized their surname, the first few generations maintained their ethnic Jewish given names.

This list is far from complete. Most of it comes from a descendant who got tired of being pestered by "Carman hunters" and wrote a small family history to demonstrate the Russian origins. Updates are always appreciated. As the Carman name is some widely used in the past, sorting out the different "users" of the name keeps everyone doing Genealogy happy.

 

Descendants of Mr. Kremen

 Generation No. 1

 

1.  Mr. KREMEN1 was born in Russia.

Children of Mr. KREMEN are:

2.                i.    ELIJAH ISAAC2 KREMEN, b. Russia; d. Russia.

3.               ii.    JULIUS KREMEN, b. Russia.

4.              iii.    CHAIKA KREMEN, b. Russia; d. Russia.

5.              iv.    MOVKA MOSES KREMEN, b. 1841, Russia.

 

Generation No. 2

 

2.  ELIJAH ISAAC2 KREMEN (KREMEN1) was born in Russia, and died in Russia.  He married SARAH MOSKOWITZ.  She was born in Russia.

Children of ELIJAH KREMEN and SARAH MOSKOWITZ are:

6.                i.    PHILLIP HARRY3 CARMEN, b. 1886, Russia; d. 17 January 1917, Brooklyn, Kings, New York.

7.               ii.    JACOB CARMEN, b. 20 December 1889, Russia; d. 28 January 1971, New York City, New York.

8.              iii.    ABRAHAM CARMEN, b. 15 October 1892, Russia; d. 08 January 1962, New York City, New York.

 

3.  JULIUS2 KREMEN (KREMEN1) was born in Russia.  He married SARAH ROSENTHAL. 

Children of JULIUS KREMEN and SARAH ROSENTHAL are:

                   i.    ANNA3 KREMEN.

                  ii.    GUSSIE KREMEN.

                 iii.    RUTH KREMEN.

                 iv.    SOPHIE KREMEN.

 

4.  CHAIKA2 KREMEN (KREMEN1) was born in Russia, and died in Russia.  She married SHIMON BELSKY SHUMEL in Russia. 

Children of CHAIKA KREMEN and SHIMON SHUMEL are:

                   i.    ANNA3 SHUMEL, b. Russia.

                  ii.    PHILLIP SHUMEL, b. Russia.

                 iii.    IDA SHUMEL, b. Russia.

                 iv.    MAX SHUMEL, b. Russia.

                  v.    SADIE SHUMEL, b. Russia.

                 vi.    NATHEN SHUMEL, b. Russia.

                vii.    SLATA SHUMEL, b. Russia.

               viii.    BAT SHEVA SHUMEL, b. Russia.

 

5.  MOVKA MOSES2 KREMEN (KREMEN1) was born 1841 in Russia.  He married MIRIAM QUOTHE. 

Children of MOVKA KREMEN and MIRIAM QUOTHE are:

                   i.    DEBOROH3 KREMEN.

                  ii.    MARIASHA KREMEN.

9.              iii.    FEDOR CARMEN, b. 04 December 1867, Zoludek, Russia; d. 03 January 1943, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California.

10.            iv.    MYER CARMEN, b. 1870, Zoludek, Russia; d. 30 September 1936, Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky.

11.             v.    MAX CARMEN, b. 24 March 1876, Zoludek, Russia; d. 13 July 1950, Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts.

                 vi.    HYMAN CARMEN, b. 06 May 1886, Zoludek, Russia; d. 11 February 1959, Dorchester, Suffolk, Massachusetts; m. TILLIE HOFFMAN, 06 September 1920, Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts.

12.           vii.    PINCHUS KREMEN, b. 28 July 1890, Zoludeck, Russia; d. 05 April 1981, Paris, France.

 

Generation No. 3

 

6.  PHILLIP HARRY3 CARMEN (ELIJAH ISAAC2 KREMEN, KREMEN1) was born 1886 in Russia, and died 17 January 1917 in Brooklyn, Kings, New York.  He married MINNIE BORNSTEIN 27 May 1911 in Brooklyn, Kings, New York. 

Children of PHILLIP CARMEN and MINNIE BORNSTEIN are:

                   i.    BELLE4 CARMEN, b. Brooklyn, Kings, New York.

                  ii.    ALEX CARMEN, b. Brooklyn, Kings, New York.

 

7.  JACOB3 CARMEN (ELIJAH ISAAC2 KREMEN, KREMEN1) was born 20 December 1889 in Russia, and died 28 January 1971 in New York City, New York.  He married LUBA. 

Children of JACOB CARMEN and LUBA are:

                   i.    ELLIAS4 CARMEN.

                  ii.    NATHANIEL CARMEN.

                 iii.    MARVIN CARMEN.

                 iv.    CLARA CARMEN.

                  v.    ARLENE CARMEN.

 

8.  ABRAHAM3 CARMEN (ELIJAH ISAAC2 KREMEN, KREMEN1) was born 15 October 1892 in Russia, and died 08 January 1962 in New York City, New York.  He married BECKY LESSER. 

Children of ABRAHAM CARMEN and BECKY LESSER are:

                   i.    ROSE4 CARMEN.

                  ii.    HELEN CARMEN.

                 iii.    ALEXANDER CARMEN.

 

9.  FEDOR3 CARMEN (MOVKA MOSES2 KREMEN, KREMEN1) was born 04 December 1867 in Zoludek, Russia, and died 03 January 1943 in Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California.  He married ROSE RUBENSTEIN. 

Child of FEDOR CARMEN and ROSE RUBENSTEIN is:

13.              i.    THEODORE4 CARMEN.

 

10.  MYER3 CARMEN (MOVKA MOSES2 KREMEN, KREMEN1) was born 1870 in Zoludek, Russia, and died 30 September 1936 in Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky.  He married LENA O. KOON. 

Children of MYER CARMEN and LENA KOON are:

14.              i.    ISRAEL4 CARMEN.

                  ii.    LOTTIE CARMEN.

                 iii.    BENJAMIN CARMEN.

                 iv.    PHILLIP CARMEN.

                  v.    ANN CARMEN.

 

11.  MAX3 CARMEN (MOVKA MOSES2 KREMEN, KREMEN1) was born 24 March 1876 in Zoludek, Russia, and died 13 July 1950 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts.  He married LOTTIE FINKELSTEIN 28 February 1898 in Boston, Suffolk, New York. 

Children of MAX CARMEN and LOTTIE FINKELSTEIN are:

                   i.    DOROTHY4 CARMEN.

                  ii.    ANNIE CARMEN.

                 iii.    WILLIAM CARMEN, b. 1902, Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts; d. 1902, Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts.

15.            iv.    ISADORE EDWARD CARMEN, b. 12 August 1903, Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts.

16.             v.    EDITH HELEN CARMEN, b. 03 January 1909, Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts.

17.            vi.    THEODORE FRANCIS CARMEN, b. 27 April 1910, Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts.

 

12.  PINCHUS3 KREMEN (MOVKA MOSES2, KREMEN1) was born 28 July 1890 in Zoludeck, Russia, and died 05 April 1981 in Paris, France.  He married BIGIT STRDMBACK. 

Child of PINCHUS KREMEN and BIGIT STRDMBACK is:

                   i.    FRED4 KREMEN.

 

Generation No. 4

 

13.  THEODORE4 CARMEN (FEDOR3, MOVKA MOSES2 KREMEN, KREMEN1)

       

Child of THEODORE CARMEN is:

18.              i.    THEODORE ROBERT5 CARMEN.

 

14.  ISRAEL4 CARMEN (MYER3, MOVKA MOSES2 KREMEN, KREMEN1)  He married SARA SEIDMAN. 

Child of ISRAEL CARMEN and SARA SEIDMAN is:

19.              i.    WILLIAM I.5 CARMEN, b. 23 January 1925, Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts.

 

15.  ISADORE EDWARD4 CARMEN (MAX3, MOVKA MOSES2 KREMEN, KREMEN1) was born 12 August 1903 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts.  He married HARRIET H. POSNER 06 August 1922 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts. 

Children of ISADORE CARMEN and HARRIET POSNER are:

20.              i.    MURIEL ELAINE5 CARMEN, b. 22 February 1923, Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts; d. 13 October 1979, Las Vegas, Clarke, Nevada.

21.             ii.    GERALD POSNER CARMEN, b. 08 July 1930, Quincy, Norfolk, Massachusetts.

22.            iii.    ROBERT CHESTER CARMEN, b. 23 July 1935, Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts.

 

16.  EDITH HELEN4 CARMEN (MAX3, MOVKA MOSES2 KREMEN, KREMEN1) was born 03 January 1909 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts.  She married PHILLIP A. BROWN 26 January 1930 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts. 

Children of EDITH CARMEN and PHILLIP BROWN are:

                   i.    MYLES5 BROWN.

                  ii.    RICHARD BROWN.

 

17.  THEODORE FRANCIS4 CARMEN (MAX3, MOVKA MOSES2 KREMEN, KREMEN1) was born 27 April 1910 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts.  He married SARA BELL 20 November 1932 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts. 

Children of THEODORE CARMEN and SARA BELL are:

                   i.    NEAL5 CARMEN.

                  ii.    LINDA CARMEN.

 

Generation No. 5

 

18.  THEODORE ROBERT5 CARMEN (THEODORE4, FEDOR3, MOVKA MOSES2 KREMEN, KREMEN1)  He married JEAN ANNE SCHULLER. 

Child of THEODORE CARMEN and JEAN SCHULLER is:

                   i.    VICTOR ROBERT6 CARMEN, b. 24 October 1961.

 

19.  WILLIAM I.5 CARMEN (ISRAEL4, MYER3, MOVKA MOSES2 KREMEN, KREMEN1) was born 23 January 1925 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts.  He married LOUSIE ARONSON. 

       

Children of WILLIAM CARMEN and LOUSIE ARONSON are:

                   i.    ROBERT6 CARMEN.

                  ii.    JOYCE CARMEN.

 

20.  MURIEL ELAINE5 CARMEN (ISADORE EDWARD4, MAX3, MOVKA MOSES2 KREMEN, KREMEN1) was born 22 February 1923 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, and died 13 October 1979 in Las Vegas, Clarke, Nevada.  She married CLAY HOUSTON FELTS 01 August 1945 in Las Vegas, Clarke, Nevada. 

Children of MURIEL CARMEN and CLAY FELTS are:

                   i.    MICHAEL6 FELTS.

                  ii.    MARTINE FELTS.

 

21.  GERALD POSNER5 CARMEN (ISADORE EDWARD4, MAX3, MOVKA MOSES2 KREMEN, KREMEN1) was born 08 July 1930 in Quincy, Norfolk, Massachusetts.  He married ANITA JOAN SAIDEL 17 December 1950 in Manchester, Hillsborough, New Hampshire. 

Children of GERALD CARMEN and ANITA SAIDEL are:

                   i.    MELINDA6 CARMEN.

                  ii.    DAVID CARMEN.

 

22.  ROBERT CHESTER5 CARMEN (ISADORE EDWARD4, MAX3, MOVKA MOSES2 KREMEN, KREMEN1) was born 23 July 1935 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts.  He married SYDELLE FRANCIES WEINER 19 June 1965 in Spring Valley, Rockland, New York. 

Children of ROBERT CARMEN and SYDELLE WEINER are:

                   i.    MICHAEL6 CARMEN.

                  ii.    RITA CARMEN.

 

07/22/2007