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The first identifiable record of our John Carman comes from the church records of the Rev. John Elliot of the Roxbury church. John Carman's record of membership is first recorded in the church records. Florence Carman, his wife, not until later. As Rev. Eliot is the first to have been married at the church in 1632, it is probable that John and Florence were married before John had left from England and that they traveled separately. By the name of the children of John and Florence Carman in later records, we have no doubt we are looking at the records of our John Carman who will go to Long Island. One other point is to be made here. Being recorded and accepted as a member of the church congregation had a significant distinction - Church members only could be made freemen. It was not enough alone to have taken the oath of fidelity and have been voted to admittance as a resident of the town. A "freeman" had to have all these qualifications plus some financial requirements as well, but without church membership, unless you were rich enough on your own not to worry about what your peers thought of you, you joined the church.
New England Historical and
Genealogical Register, Vol. XXXV, 1881 ( RECORD
OF CHURCH MEMBERS, Transcribed
by William B. Trask, Esq., of A
recorde of such as adjoyned themselves vnto the fellowship
of this Roxborough:
as also of such children as
they had when they joyned, & of such
as were borne vnto them vnder
the holy Covenant of this
Church, who are most
Pperly the seede
of this Church. he was a Godly,
wise young man, & removed to Afterwards he wrote a Dialogue concerning Justification, wch was Printed anno 1650, stiled The meritorious price, a book full of error & weakens, & some heresies wch the Generall Court of ye Massachusetts Condemned to be burnt & appointed mr John Norton then Teacher at Ipswich to confute ye errors contained therein. Mr Thomas Welde William
Dennison, he brought 3 children to N.E. all sons; Daniel, Edward, &
George: Daniel married at Newtowne, &was joyned to the church there he
afterwards removed to the church at Thomas Lambe,
he came into this land in the yeare 1630 he brought his wife & 2 Children
Thomas & John: Samuel his 3d son was borne about the 8th month of the same
yeare 1630 & baptised in the church at Samuell Wakeman. he came to N.E. in the 9th month. 1631, he buryed his only child at sea: he was one of the first foundaton of the church at Rocksbry Elizabeth his first borne here was borne about in the yeare. William Parke, he came to N.E. in the 12th month, 1630, a single man, & was one of the first in the church at Rocksbrough: he afterwards married Martha Holgrave, the daughter of Holgrave of Sale. he married the month. Thomas Rawlings. he brought 5 children to this Land. Thomas. Mary. Joane. Nathaniell. John. he came wth the first company: 1630 Robert Cole. he came wth the first company. 1630. John Johnson Robert Gamlin senior. Ricard Lyman. he came to N.E. in the 9t month, 1631. he brought children: Phillis. Richard Sarah. John. he was an ancient christian, but weake, yet after some time of tryal & quickening he joyned to the church; wn the great removall was made to Conecticot he also went, & vnderwent much affliction, for goeing toward winter, his catle were lost in driving, & some never found againe; & the winter being could & ill Pvided, he wa sick and melancholly, yet after he had some revivings through Gods mercy, and dyed in the yeare 1640. Jehu Bur. William Chase.
he came wth the first company, 1630 he brought one child his son willia. a
child of ill qualitys, & a sore affliction to his parents: he was much
afflicted by the long & tedious affliction of his wife; after his wives
recovery she bare him a daughter, wch they named mary borne aboute the midle
of the 3d month. 1637 he did after yt remove intending to Situate, but after
went wth a company who maide a new plantation at Richard Bugby. Gregorie Baxter. Francis Smith. John Perrie. John Leavens he arrived at N.E. in the yeare 1632. his wife lay bedrid divers years. after she dyed he maried Rachel write a Godly maide a membr of or church: John, his first borne, was borne the last of the second month ano. 1640. Mrs Margaret Welde the wife of mr Thomas Weld. Sarah Lyman, the wife of Richard Lyman. Elizabeth Lambe the wife of Thomas Lambe. Mr Richard Dumer William Talmage. John Carman. he came to N.E. in the yeare 1631. he brought no childrn: his first borne John was borne the 8t of the 5t month 1633. his daughter Abigail was borne on the 5t month; 1635. his 3d child Caleb was borne in the first of the first month: 1639. Elizabeth Wakeman, the wife of Samuell Wakeman. Bur. the wife of Jehu Bur. Thomas
Woodforde, a man servant. he came to N.E. in the yeare. 1632. & was joyned
to the church about halfe a yeare after, he afterwards maryed mary Blott.
& removed to Conecticott, & joyned to the church at Marjory Hamond a maide servant. she came to N.E. in the yeare 1632 & about halfe a yeare after was joyned to the church: & after some years she was married to John Ruggls, of this church: Mary Chase, the wife of William Chase. she had a paralitik humor wch fell into her back bone, so yt she could not stir her body, but as she was lifted, and filled her wth great torture, & caused her John Coggshall Mary Coggshall.the wife of John Coggshall. John Watson Margret Dennison, the wife of Willia Dennison. It pleased God to work vpon her heart & change it in her ancient years, after she came to this Land: & joyned to the church in the yeare. 1632. Mary Cole, the wife of Robert Cole. God also wrought vpon her heart (as it was hoped after her coming to N.E. but after her husbands excommunication, & falls she did too much favor his ways, yet not as to incur any just blame, she lived an aflicted life, by reason of his vnsetlednesse & removing fro place to place. William Heath, he came to this Land, in the yeare. 1632. & soone after joyned to the church. he brought 5 children. Mary. Isaak. Mary. Peleg. Hanah. Mary Heath the wife of Willia Heath. William Curtis he came to the Land in the yeare. 1632. & soone after joyned to the church, he brought 4 children wth him. Thomas. Mary. John. Phillip. & his eldest son Willia, came the yeare before. he was a hopefull scholler, but God tooke him in the end of the yeare. 1634. Sarah Curtis, the wife of William Curtis. Thomas Offit. Isabel Offit the wife of Thomas Offitt. Isaak Morrell [Sarah] Morrel the wife of Isaak Morrel. Daniell Brewer [Joanna?] Brewer the wife of Daniell Brewer. [ Mary Rawlings, the wife of Thomas Rawlings, she lived a godly life & went through wth weaknesse of body, & after some years, when her husband was removed to sittuate, she dyed. about the yeare. 1639.T T Mr John Eliot;
he came to N.E. in the 9t month. 1631. he left his intended wife in Mris Ann Eliot, the wife of mr John Eliot. Mr George
Alcock, he came wth the first company ano. 1630.
he left his only son in Valentine Prentise. he came to this land in the yeare. 1631. & joyned to the church in the yeare 1632. he brought but one child to the Land, his son John. & buryed anothr at sea: he lived a godly life, & went through much affliction by bodyly infirmity. & died leaving a good sav' of godlyness behind him. Allice Prentise the wife of Valentine Prentise after her husbands death, she was married to John watson of this church. Abraham Pratt Johannah Pratt. the wife of Abraha Pratt. Mris Francis
Pinchon the wife of Mr willia Pinchon; she was a widdow, a matron of the
church at Mrs mary Dumer, the wife of mr Richard Dumer: she was a Godly woman but by the seduction of some of her acquaintans, she was led away into the new opinions in Mris. Hutchinsons time, & her husband removing to Nubery, she there openly declared herselfe, & did also (together wth othrs indeavour) seduce her husband, & p'swaded him to returne to Boston; where she being young wth child, & ill: mr. Clark (one of the same opinions) vnskillfully gave her a vomit, wch did in such maner torture & tormet her, wth the riseing of the mothr & other vyolences of nature yt she dyed in a most uncomfortable maner: But we beleive God tooke her away in mercy, fro worse evil, wch she was falling vnto. & we doubt not but she is gone to heaven. Elizabeth Talmage the wife of william Talmage. she was a grave matron a Godly woman, & after her husband was removed to Line after a few years she dyed & left a gracious savor behind her. Ann Shelly a
maide servant she came to the Land in the yeare 1632. & was married to
[Richard] Foxall a godly brothr of the Rebeckah Short a
maide servant she came in the yeare 1632. & was married to [Walter] Palmer
a godly man of charlestowne church. [He
was proably a younger brother of Abraham, of Judith Bugby the wife of Richard Bugbie. Florenc CARMAN the wife of John CARMAN. Mary Blott a
maide servant, she came in the yeare. 1632. & was after married to stewart
woodford of this church, who after
removed to Conecticot to
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