Rev. Walworth
 

From an unsigned, handwritten paper in the collection of the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society library.  It is written on the back of sheets of paper with an announcement from Christs First Presbyterian Church, Hempstead dated Nov. 14, 1918 (having to do with their lack of a minister due to theirs being off as a Chaplain in WWI.).  For what it is worth it has some interesting tidbits.  

 

Historical address by Rev. J. Walworth, 200th Anniversary, Stamford, Conn., p.19

"The cause of Mr. Dentons leaving Stamford is not entered upon record.  He differed with the church at Wethersfield on the subject of church government.  It appears that his views upon this subject were very much in advance of the age in which he lived.  He could not have been in favor of the New haven doctrine that none but Free Burgesses (church members) should vote in town meetings, because both Mr. Denton and church at Hempstead not only allowed every inhabitant to vote, but even made it a duty for all to do so.

Stiles Wethersfield, vol.I, p.135   Whereas there was a dismission granted by the church of Watertown in the Massachusetts dated 29 March last [1636] to Andrew Warde, Jo. Sharman, Jo. Strickland, Robte Coo (Coe),  Robte Reynold and Jonas Werde with intent to form anew in a church covenant in this area of Connecticut the said partners have so accordingly done.

The lineage of the Carman family has been traced in Hertsfordshire and Surrey in England back to 1042 A.D. where John Carman was holding a Lordship in Surrey and in 1085-86 the same man is recorded in Doomsday book.  But the connecting link between this English family and the American descendants is not satisfactorily explained or accounted for.

Two, perhaps three, immigrants by the name of John Carman had arrived in this country from England within twelve years after the landing of the Pilgrims in 1620, but whether one or the other is an offshoot of the Hertsfordshire family or whether all were, is not certainly shown.  A John Carman came to Plymouth in 1623 in the Fortune and before 1630, his name is found in a conveyance there with William Lynch.  He may have been the same person that was in Lynn in 1636 and removed the next year to Sandwich on Cape Cod and who in Sandwich in 1643 was participating in the division of lands at the same time that John Carman of Hempstead was purchasing from the Indians of Long Island.

John Carman was undoubtedly the first Englishman who settled with his family within the limits of the Town of Hempstead on Long Island.  It is said that he came from the parish of  Hemel-Hempstead in Hertfordshire, England in 1631 in the ship Lyon.  The Carman line of ancestry has been traced back in England for twenty-one generations to a time previous to the Norman Conquest.  As early as 1273 the family was located in Hemel-Hempstead.

The earliest knowledge we have of him in America was at Roxbury, Mass. Where he is recorded by Rev. John Elliot in the list of members of the Roxbury Church, as follows: John Carman, he came, etc.  His wife is also in John Elliots list of church members as follows: Florence Carman, etc.

From Ross History of Long Island, vol. III - The maiden name of John Carmans wife was Florence Fordham.  Her brother Robert came to this country with his sister and her husband, who was a minister.  Five children were born to John and Florence Carman:   

John had 8 children:         John

                                                Caleb -    Caleb

                                                               Samuel

                                                                Benjamin -             Samuel b. Mar 26, 1749

                                                                                                Stephen

                                                                                                Mary

                                                                                                Ann

                                                                                                Richard

                                                Benjamin

                                                Abigail

                                                Samuel

                                                Thomas

                                                Joshua

                                                Joseph

 

The date of their arrival at Roxbury is not given, but they probably remained there at least until the birth of their third child Caleb.  As Rev. John Elliot came in the ship Lion in 1631, his record is doubtless correct.  Another John Carman is mentioned in the records of Plymouth Colony as having gone from Lynn, Mass. To Sandwich on Cape Cod in 1637.  That man however died in 1638 {the author of the manuscript has crossed out the sentence}.  There is no excuse for confusing these two men, as has been done by genealogists.  The man of Sandwich whose name is also said to have been John may have been the father of him at Hempstead.  The Hempstead mans records may be traced by the following dates.

1632, March 4   John Carman took the Freemans Oath at Boston.

1633, July 8      His son John was born.

1634               Benjamin Coe, born 1629, who afterward married Abigail Carman, came to America with his father   Robert.  Both father and son were among the original proprietors of Hempstead.

1635, July         His only daughter Abigail was born.

1639, March      His son Caleb was born but died young.

1640                 The Colony at New Haven had in 1640 by their agent purchased  Rippowams of the Indians, etc.

1643                A committee was sent from Stamford to Long Island who succeeded in making a purchase of land from the Aborigine natives.

1643, Nov 13   Is the date of the deed from the Indians to Carman and Fordham of their southern portion of the land, which in the following year was described in the charter of Gov. Kieft {give description from Indian deed].

1643.                Doubtless John Carman, with at least a part of his family, and perhaps his brother-in law {father-in-law written above it, but brother-in-law not stricken out}, Rev Robert Fordham made his home at this time on Long Island, on the easterly part of the land deeded to them by the Indians.  Thirty-four years later, July 12, 1677, his son John gave testimony that he was 44 years of age and he said that he saw his father give an axe to the one-eyed Sachem.  This would prove that the son, ten years of age, was present at the time of the purchase.

1644.                The charter of Gov. Kieft.

1645.                Other families settle in Hempstead.

1645, Jan 9.      Caleb Carman, son of John and Florence Carman, the first white child to be born in Hempstead.

1649.                About this time his son Joshua was born.

1656.                This is supposed to be about the date of John Carmans death.

1661.                John Carman, Caleb Carman and Benjamin Coe, who married their sister Abigail, petition to the Courts, etc.

History of Glastenbury, Conn., Chapter 8, p.31 Rev. Richard Denton came to Watertown, Mass. in 1634 to Wethersfield, Conn. in 1635 where he remained until 1641 when he went to Rippowoms (Stamford) carrying a considerable number of families with him.  In 1644 he removed with a portion of his congregation to Hempstead, L.I.

Page 29 Of the members of the church in Watertown, Mass. Who came to Wethersfield, only six were dismissed, to which number only four were added in the next six years.  During the interval, they received ministerial labors of Rev. Peter Prudden, Richard Denton and occasionally of Rev. John Shannan.  They seem however never to have properly organized their church or called a minister to settle among them.

Glastenbury #2, p.27 the names of those who left and went to Stamford are given in the list of 1673:

Robert Babes                        went to Stamford                  died 1675               H.P.232

Robert Beedle                                                                                               H.P.232

Samuel Clark                         went to Stamford                                               H.P.232

Robert Coe                            went to Stamford                                                H.P.232

Richard Crabb                       went to Stamford                                                 H.P.232

Rev Richard Denton            went to Stamford                                                    H.P.232

Jeffrey Ferris                         do                                                                           do

Daniel Frinch                        do                                                                           do

Richard Gildersleeve            do                                                                             do

Jerrmiah Jagger                     do                                                                           do

John Jessup                          do                                                                           do

Richard Law                          do                                                                           do

Matthew Mitchell                do                                                                              do

John Northend                     do                                                                          H.P.18

Thurston Raynor                 do                                                                           H.P.232

John Seaman                         do                                                                        H.P.19

Robert Seelry                                                                                                     H.P.155

Samuel Sherman                   went to Stamford                                                    H.P.232

Vincent Simkins                    do                                                                          H.P.18

Henry Smith                          do                                                                          H.P.10

Andrew Ward                       do                                                                           H.P.232

John Wentmon                     do                                                                           do

Jonas Wood Jr.                    do                                                                           H.P.18

Jeremiah Wood                    do                                                                           do

Jonas Wood Snr                  do                                                                           H.P.232

Edmund Wood                     do                                                                           H.P.18

Francis Yates                        do                                                                         H.P.18

The church consisted of but seven members divided four and three.  The four being a majority of the church claiming to represent the town and church, though only a minority of the planters were with them.  The three church members with the majority of the people claimed the right to remain, and the others finally left and commenced a colony at Stamford, Conn.  xxxx carrying with them the records of the church, and also of the town, if there were any, claiming them as their right.

~ end of letter ~

 

09/04/2006