John⁵ Carman runs back from John⁴, John³, John² to John¹ Carman and Florence Fordham.  John appears to have remained neutral during the Revolution, but as a resident of South Hempstead, and the activities of his sons, he leanings were undoubtedly loyalist, His upbringing being from traditional members of the community who generally held public office and land.  John's brother, Adam (who married Mary Burtis, and not to be confused with his son, Adam who married Millicent Johnston - you can see why this line gets so confused!), was a known Tory. John⁵ had three known sons:

Adam⁶ Carman remained on Long Island and continued my line of the family in Hempstead Township and in particular, in Baldwin.  Several of Adam's children later departed for Canada with at least one later returning to Long Island after the hard feelings of the revolution had passed (there is no indication that they were Quaker pacifists).

The other two sons of this family , John Carman and Israel Carman,  left Long Island as young men, and according to a grand-nephew for Nova Scotia, the port of entry for loyalists. Israel I have not been able to identify after his departure from Long Island.   John however, appears to have settled back in Dutchess County, New York.  To identify him from the several other men by the name of John Carman that appear in Dutchess County, he has been dubbed with the nickname "John the Refugee".